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February 11, 2012

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grunthor

What I like about Santorum....hands down the most genuine person in the race.

What I dislike about Santorum, when you look hard enough into his views and record, he's a "big-government" conservative in that he thinks that a big, bloated, powerful government is just fine as long as it is doing what he wants it to do....whereas I prefer more consistency.

ANY government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have. Wether it is doing it in the name of "fairness" or in the name of Jesus makes no difference to the to person getting their rights and freedoms destroyed.

Jim

At some point, is the GOP going to drop the pretense of "Romney ALMOST CERTAINLY will win", and admit that Romney is running out of people to tear down?

I'm really sensing the GOP and the DC-based media is in denial.

Obama 2012

I am overjoyed by this poll.

The Republican establishment has created a monster (today's far right right wing Republican base) and they have clearly lost control of it.

They've been pushing them to be more and more unreasonable. They've been pushing them farther and farther to the right... These voters now live in a bubble where Rick Santorum is presidential and Mitt Romney is a Communist.

Craig

One sanctimonious chickenhawk replacing another.

Andrew McMillen

Bring him on! PRESIDENT Santorum? HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa LMFAO

Chet Stanger

Santorum has nothing to offer in the way of plans to get the job done. Americans would be wise to endorse Gingrich.

Chet Stanger

www.townhall.com/columnists/donaldlambro/2012/02/10/rick_santorum_never_met_an_earmark_he_didnt_like

tim baker

why don't you give us information that matters? who cares who is popular in the states that have already held their primary? what matters is who is popular in the states that are yet to vote. the presence of data from irrelevant states make this poll pretty but useless.

Aged Thinker

Santorum will win the GOP nomination. Romney will drop out after March 6th's Super Tuesday when he will be routed in most of those states. Mitt will also lose tonight's Maine caucus to Ron Paul. Mitt is totally unacceptable to the GOP inspite of his desperate attempts to claim the mantle. www.sci-burr.com

Independent Thought

Say goodnight to the Republic.

labman57

Most Americans can only tolerate a limited amount of inane and irrational commentary from our candidates for national office. With a holier-than-thou theocrat such as Santorum, we would be inundated with a daily barrage of sanctimonious and socially regressive religious doctrine-driven societal intolerance, comic book-level analyses of complex issues, routine reminders of his unabashed scientific illiteracy, and delusional tripe based on unbridled ignorance of the topics being discussed.

gneissguy

And next week it will be completely different but who knows how?

Bonncaruso

Wow. A real roller-coaster ride, this 2012 GOP nomination race. The only factor that seems to be stubbornly consistent is the anti-Romney ("I will in no way, shape or form vote for Romney") vote. It makes me wonder what would happen were either Perry or Cain to RE-ENTER the race...

RockinRod

Great news!!! The one way to absolutely cement President Obama's second term is for Ricky S to be the Republican candidate.
What did the people of my state know about him that others might not???His war on women's health issues, his cynical deception about where his family resided, having PA foot the bill for their education while they were all living in DC but claiming Pittsburgh residency, his completely messed up Terry Schiavo hail Mary play, his insane stance on Iran, his betrayal of the working class, his DC insiderness, etc. We booted him out as a sitting Senator by almost 18% of the vote. Bring him on Republicans, bring him on!!!

Jack

On MSNBC, one of the commentators just now said that your poll also indicated that if Gingrich were to drop out, most of his supporters would go to Romney. I don't know if that was simply a "mistake" or a lie, but it was inexcusable. I guess that shows you have to take just about everything you hear from the media with a grain of salt. ;)

Anyway, interesting poll. I enjoy reading the PPP tweets as well.

Fothergillgirl

Today Romney wins the CPAC straw poll AND the Maine caucus, despite Paul's constant campaigning there.

I think that Romney is the MOST conservative (next to Paul, who can't win) when you really look at Gingrich and Santorum's records.

Dana London

How is Romney a full conservative when his past doesn't show it? His past shows the length of a flip flopper that would extend around the globe for thousands of miles! In fact, his numbers in the 2008 election weren't even that great to say the least. Romney's companies were notorious for buying, down sizing, gutting, firing and then reselling the same company at an extreme profit! Sounds like a a bunch of financial sharks if you ask any logical American. Whereas the the monies that Rick Santorum requested for his district in Pa., was badly needed because our wayward government literally exterminated the steel production in Pa. Money also that Butler Pa. could regrow and furnish jobs for it's people. I would say that it was money well spent and even I would have done the same. You really have to read to stay on top of these things people. Reading is fundamental!!!

faldem

I have made this comment before, and it never gets addressed but I will make it reference to this poll:

Here are the are the age distributions from the 2008 exit poll

18-29 - 18%
30-34 - 29%
45-64 - 37%
65+ - 16%

And the age distribution in this poll, with change from 2008
18-44 - 28% (-19%)
45-64 - 44% (+7%)
65+ - 28% (+12%)

Among those 18-44 the numbers are Santorum 32, Paul 30, Gingrich 16, Romney 14.

The young are in the process of leaving the Republican Party. In fact, this poll finds so few under 29 that I am willing to bet the number isn't statistically significant. But unlike last time, there is evidence that the problems for the GOP extend up into the 30-44 age bracket - which went about the same as the final Obama-McCain % the last time.

I am amazed at just how little attention these numbers - which are typical are getting. Quinippiac. for example, reports 18-34 in their polling because 19-29 isn't big enough. I the Florida exit poll, the numbers looked like this:
18-29 6% (2008 was 7)
30-44: 15% (2008 was 18%)
45-64: 42% (31%)
65+: 36% (44%)

Matt

President Obama, welcome to your second land slide victory and a second term.

Thank you Republican party.

JTC

Mr. Santorum is good candidate and a formidable opponent to the Obama communist agenda,what any real American loathes.
I'm 60 and it's obvious to me that this country has been brought to it's knees from decades of moral decay.
I've also observed just by watching the debate trail that Mr.Santorum's sons have a genuine admiration and love for their Father, it's plain to see they feel quite secure and proud to stand with their dad, refreshing to see these days.
Mr.Santorum will lead us in the right direction, I'm certain and judging by the level of love and commitment his family has toward him along with his personal history he's certain to make a great American president. Santorum is a man of principle that believes in the America. I'd like see more thought's from Santorum about our membership in the UN. And more importantly how he intends breaking ties to this group of corrupt elites.

Tom Keller

As above, a Santorum nomination guaratees an Obama repeat.

Best case scenario: O stays president and the Rs take over the Senate and keep the House, but not with veto proof majorities. Then we have true gridlock, which is great. At least they won't be able to DO anything else to us...

Keith

"grunthor" nailed my thoughts exactly. Dear supposed small government conservatives: This is the last chance we will have to have a really conservative, responsible government. If you want to send another conservative in name only to DC, don't be surprised with the eventual outcome. There will be no more chances. People are going to completely give up on the Republican party if they continue to support clowns like Santorum.


Thank you for your comments, grunthor. "What I like about Santorum....hands down the most genuine person in the race.

What I dislike about Santorum, when you look hard enough into his views and record, he's a "big-government" conservative in that he thinks that a big, bloated, powerful government is just fine as long as it is doing what he wants it to do....whereas I prefer more consistency.
ANY government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have. Wether it is doing it in the name of "fairness" or in the name of Jesus makes no difference to the to person getting their rights and freedoms destroyed."

Ssupak

What's going on in AZ? Intrade has Romney to win AZ at 89%, way higher than he is anywhere else, including his birth state of Michigan. My cursory studies show that the demographics of AZ are not that different than CO (lots of evangelicals and catholics, AZ=4% Mormon vs. CO=2% Mormon)...

Mike

That's okay -- I'm probably going to vote for Gary Johnson on the Libertarian ticket.

jess

Rick S belongs back in the dark ages. I mean, he doesn't think even heterosexual people should perform any sex act that isn't frontal copulation. "that's why we have sodomy laws". He thinks the 14th amendment should not cover sex in the household. lol. dude is just way way out there.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-04-23-santorum-excerpt_x.htm

Steve Scott

Santorum seems to think that he can set a tone of sexual morality for this country. He's opposed to any non-marital sex, and believes that any sex within marriage must be for the purposes of procreation. He doesn't believe that married couples should have any forms of birth control.

The irony is that his wife was in a long term live-in relationship with an abortion doctor. She left the guy when he told her he didn't want to have children with her. She linked up with Santorum later.

If he gets the nomination, his stances on sex are going to get him hammered. Most conservatives aren't prigs and prudes.

Obama 2012

PPP's latest tweets about Santorum doing better than Romney in the national & Mich. general election vs. Obama are great news for the Santorum campaign and for Obama... because I am 100% confident that once people learn more about Santorum (as they certainly will if he somehow wins the nomination) that he will be outrageously unpopular.

There is no way that Santorum's crazy far right wing nonsense is going to fly when people get a taste of it.

Richard

Plain and simple. I am a conservative republican who has lived in three different states, WA, MN, and TX. If the republicans nominate Santorum, who is a good man, and with whom I aggree with a lot of his views, though not all, Obama will have a 2nd term and the damage he has done so far will become permanent. If you think nominating too conservative of a candidate matters, I have three words: Nevada, Colorado, and Delaware.

Uno Hu

Some of us think that a second Obama term will end the United States as we have grown up to accept it. Some of us think that a second Obama term will allow him to finish or nearly finish the good work he has thus far only had the chance to begin. Hopefully the election later this year will be an accurate reflection of the majority's wishes in this matter. Elections do have consequences; a people do eventually get they type government they deserve. Either way makes no personal difference of substance to me, but those who are younger than I will surely pay for a wrong decision made in November. Some will deserve what comes down the road by virtue of their vote; some will not. No one ever said life was fair.

Susan

The only one who can beat Obama is Ron Paul.
If you care about your freedom, he voted against the NDAA- The Patriot Act(Which ended the 4th Amendment)-He is the only true Constitutionalist.
He will protect your right to Alternative Medicine>.
He will protect the internet from government intrusion!
He will get rid of the government waste that is killing our country!
He will stop the drones over America program.
He is for Freedom people! Wake up and smell the coffee.
Please take the time to research what Ron Paul is really saying!

Obama 2012

Richard - what damage is that exactly? Reversing the Bush Recession? Rescuing the auto industry? Doubling the Dow in just three years?

Dave

What damage has Obama done?
From where I sit (Canada) his efforts kick started an absolutely destroyed economy.
America would be advised to pay higher taxes and get phase 2 rolling. The day Americans Agee to higher taxes is the day the stock market rockets up. Look to the early Regan years for insight.

Livid

I think we are setting up for a repeat of Goldwater v. Johnson in 1964, only far worse for the republicans. For those who do not remember or who were not living or old enough then, Goldwater took the republican party far to the right. In his day, Goldwater was as strident as they come. By today's standards, Goldwater was a piker, a liberal even.

Johnson had a very easy time painting Goldwater as an extremist and a nut case. His famous 5 4 3 2 1 atomic bomb blast commercial was utterly devastating to Goldwater. In a mere 30 seconds, this spot summarized and defined Goldwater for what he was, a dangerous, unbalanced and possibly crazy person who would not hesitate to plunge the world into nuclear war.

The general election was a total disaster for Goldwater and the republicans. His coat tails took down the republican party with him. Only the disaster of the Vietnam war and Johnson's resignation enabled Nixon to defeat a wounded Hubert Humphry in 1968. Otherwise, it took about 15 years for the republicans to recover. Then, Nixon blew up. Carter beat Ford. Then, fortunately for the republicans, Carter did such a poor job of managing the economy, the energy crisis, and inflation that he essentially handed the next presidential election to Reagan. Had that not happened, arguably it may have taken another 10 years of so for republicans to recover fully from Goldwater.

Even more importantly, Goldwater had the effect of discrediting the intellectual legitimacy of conservative thinking.

Here we are in 2012. The republicans have become vastly more extreme as a group than Goldwater. The so-called slate of candidates for president is a clown show and parade of people who are even more dangerous than Goldwater was.

The republicans seem to have learned nothing from history, bush certainly did not when he started the fraudulent Iraq war in 2003. Hopefully, in the 2012 general election and at the state and local levels, history will repeat itself.

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