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You go to public policy polling.com/ cached On the top left under The latest PPP surveys, click on the date August 23, 2011

Anonymous

I wonder what the Paul people are going to say when he starts losing primaries? Is that going to be a conspiracy too. Theryre going to be so puzzled about the results LOL. Thats going to be funny.Im wondering if this is about money to him too. You could say he wants to get his message out too but Ive been noticing him pandering to people that woudl normally vote democrat but like him because hes anti-war. he knows he cant win, and hes not serious about his message anymore, so it must be the money.

Scott

I imagine Paul might get close to 20% of the Iowas primary vote, but I dont see how it can get any better than that. His negatives are high because of his positions. A lot of people just arent buying the line.

The Interesting Times

Grim Ego, in terms of actually bring delegates to the convention, Paul is in the third tier, with candidates like Cain, Huntsman, Santorum, and McCotter. Unlike the Iowa Straw Poll, you cant rig the convention.Based on the number of winner-take-all states he wins outright (none), and his percentage of the vote in proportional allocation states (usually single digits), hes projected to bring about 36 delegates to the Republican National Convention in 2012.You need over a thousand to win.

Dustin Ingalls

where can you get the actual poll questions and numbers?At the bottom of the post as usual.

I Am Iron Man

Those Huntsman #s are terrifying... for the Republican Party.This proves that theyve blocked themselves into a corner. They are going to be stuck with a nut as their nominee.

intuitivereason

Dustin - one thing I havent seen yet in any polling (and it may be too small to concern with yet) is whether polling usual ... Republican primary voters will underrepresent Ron Pauls vote significantly given his appeal across the board.Anecdotally, there seems to be a lot of I normally vote Democrat, but this time Im voting for Ron Paul. Im just wondering if this is/will be of sufficient scale to affect the outcome.

Mike Cameron

where can you get the actual poll questions and numbers?

Grim Ego

I have to agree with many of the above. Throwing in a nasty line calling Ron Paul a very long shot when he is obviously in the top tier, in a very close fourth, and has the second best favorability rating makes ZERO SENSE.

The Interesting Times

Regarding the Anonymous comment about isolationism vs. non-interventionism:So basically, Ron Paul would have traded with Stalin or Pol Pot or Gaddafi, an isolationist wouldnt have.Good to know.

Anonymous

Not sure the Founding Fathers would agree about where you place the center though. Nor most of middle America.Thats a laugh. If the Founding Fathers were alive today, none of them would have shot in hell of winning the Republican nomination. I doubt any of them would even be allowed membership in the GOP. They would all be considered too liberal and too unChristian for todays anti-intellectual, anti-science GOP.

Anonymous

Ia Republicans are Ignorant, stupid, uneducated - so they picked the most Idiotic candidate.Keep going morons.

Dustin Ingalls

Nice Overton window.Well, yeah, the GOP has taken advantage of the medias obsession with balance to pull policy rightward. They know that whatever they propose will be seen as an equal and opposite proposal to the Democrats preferences, when in reality, their opening bargain is far to the right of center and the Democrats much closer to the center than the left. Its been demonstrated by the debt deal. My rough estimate was not so much my own as political scientists, in study after study in recent years, based on actual Congressional votes and candidate positions.

Dustin Ingalls

Also, you can believe that God created Evolution, there are tons of religous figures who reconcile Creationism and Evolution. Just because someone believes in God doesnt mean they are Evolution-deniers.We didnt say anything, nor did our polls ask anything, about God. So if someone says they dont believe in evolution, its safe to say they dont believe God caused it or designed it.

Anonymous

Compare the favorables numbers of the candidates from June to present day. It seems that most of the contenders had their favorables decline, not just Bachmann. Rick Perry is the flavor of the month. Will he be able to stand up being probed by the national press?

The Interesting Times

There is no effort by the media or the Republican establishment to undermine Ron Paul.Just mentioning Ron Paul is giving this fringe candidate a lot more publicity than he deserves.

Anonymous

Man. I really get tired of people saying Ron Paul and his supporters are isolationists. It just shows your ignorance when you say such things.Look up the definition of isolationism. It is both non-interventionist foreign policy AND protectionist trade policy.Ron Paul and his supporters believe in free trade, not protectionist type policies.Please, before you act like you even have one tiny clue what youre talking about, at least look up the definition of isolationism on wikipedia.

Anonymous

The Dems are not much left of center, but the GOP is about 3/4 of the way from the center toward the right.Nice Overton window. Not sure the Founding Fathers would agree about where you place the center though. Nor most of middle America.

Anonymous

Thats another thing Ive been pointing out--Paul is really no ones second choice. You either love him or hate him.If thats true, then 53% love him and 29% hate him, an enviable place to be. Plus, rising poll numbers may create a bandwagon affect and make soft admirers into hard supporters.

Anonymous

Ron Paul will still be disrespected by the media and the elite while he is president too. It will just be something the American people will have to get used to and be able to see through. Fixing the country will not be easy but Ron Paul is the only one who can do it. Expect huge media backlash when the corporate and personal welfare checks begin shrinking dramatically.

Dustin Ingalls

Hes 6% behind in a 4 way race. If any candidate drops out, very few of their voters would go to Paul, if any really.Thats another thing Ive been pointing out--Paul is really no ones second choice. You either love him or hate him. He does seem to get some of Palins people when shes not in the race, but other than that, hes got a finite number of supporters.What I dont understand is why the tea party is considered far right but the main line Republicans are not considered Far left of the republican party, they are really the old Democratic party.The GOP of today, thanks to the Tea Party, is much further right than the Democratic Party is left. The Dems are not much left of center, but the GOP is about 3/4 of the way from the center toward the right.

Anonymous

Ron Paul 2012!!! Where the hell do we go to get in these polls? I hit up all I find and am from IA.

Sho 'Nuff

I think you need to chill out with your political rhetoric. Just because someone believes someone wasnt born in the US doesnt mean they question their citizenship....there are millions of non-native Citizens!Also, you can believe that God created Evolution, there are tons of religous figures who reconcile Creationism and Evolution. Just because someone believes in God doesnt mean they are Evolution-deniers. And there is nothing really to deny, no one yet has moved passed the theory stage on how life is CREATED...some think primordial soup, some think DNA from comets or asteroids (with no real knowledge where that DNA came from), in fact NASA is exploring this now. Its hard to be a DENIER of something thats only a unproven theory!Your a polling firm, act like it.PS I believe Obama was born in the USA and in Evolution, but that God created Evolution. My point is, your political language in poll analysis is very out of place.

DonSurber

What about Jim McMillan?

dood

Note Q19-21 with the head-to-head matchups...of course they didnt include a head-to-head matchup with RON PAUL...and yes, I also noticed that they STILL have to put barbs in there like very long shot....no other candidate gets disrespected like that.

Anonymous

RP did not win a single primary race in the 2008 election cycle...Yet, the talking points he provided to the democrats and the endless soundbytes from him damaged the Republican brand immensly...He continues to be a grandstanding attention whore. He has no chance but he will hang around again until the bitter end it seems. Where is all his campaign cash going...Is this guy in it for the money?

Anonymous

MDKiddYou just never can read an article about the political horse race without some dismissive comment about Ron Pauls chances It is truer about Sarah Palin. They want to tell us our eyes and hearts are lying to us.We the people will show them in 2012. Pollsters will have a lot of egg on their faces.

wt

I cant believe Im about to defend the Paul people, but I was at Ames doing work for another campaign and was stunned how demographically diverse his support was. Elderly women with canes and hardcore military types, along with the typical youth voters, were wearing Paul buttons and t-shirts. Maybe its just Iowa, but his band of support isnt nearly as narrow as it was in 2008. That doesnt mean hes viable nationally. But I wouldnt be surprised his support grows further in Iowa.

Anonymous

Will you be releasing Ohio GOP Presidential primary numbers?

Anonymous

Paul is a long shot because he commands one small segment of the conservate isolationists with all other candidates sharing the meat of the Republican party. As others quit, little of their support will go to Paul. What I dont understand is why the tea party is considered far right but the main line Republicans are not considered Far left of the republican party, they are really the old Democratic party.

Dustin Ingalls

So please explain to all us rabble why hes such a long shot?Because hes not actually winning anywhere, and wont win any of the early states, and hes getting no establishment support. Insurgency works in smaller-scale primaries, but in presidential races, you generally need some institutional oomph and an air of electability around you.That said, we at least did call into question the medias three-candidate top tier by highlighting the beginning of what could be Bachmanns decline and the rise in Pauls personal numbers and strong 4th place, which is technically a tie for 1st when considering the margin of error.

Anonymous

Its pretty obvious MDKidd. Hes 6% behind in a 4 way race. If any candidate drops out, very few of their voters would go to Paul, if any really. You can practically look at Bachmann and Perry as a single unit - when one drops out, the other will get the vast majority of their support. Paul is a very long shot - the reporting here is not biased as it has been against Paul in the MSM, its just true.

wally

yes, i would like to know how his chances are still long shot too?

Anonymous

Why is Gingrichs support increasing from 5% to 7% when Palin is included ?

DJ

From all the polls and online donations, it seems to me that Ron Paul is the frontrunner in this race. Perry just got in and nobody even knows anything about him so his support could drop fast once people learn. To say Ron Paul is a long shot is laughable and discredits the author.

Anonymous

I share your same sentiments MDKidd! Take heart though... Ron Paul, and his message/platform is only growing. Just think where he would be if the establishment Republicans & liberal elites didnt always try to undermine him! Hes gaining --at a noticeable clip-- despite their attempts to marginalize him and his impeccable record.

MDKidd

You just never can read an article about the political horse race without some dismissive comment about Ron Pauls chances. While Paul is certainly still a very long shot for the nomination ... Ummm ... hes only 6% behind 1st place in this poll and his poll numbers have been steadily rising everywhere since he entered the race. So please explain to all us rabble why hes such a long shot?

Dave

Dude, I think you have a few too many pre-conceived notions and defined views to be a pollster. At the very least, too many announced. If you want to keep some unbiased credibility, keep quiet.

ModeratePoli

Id like to try to answer some questions Ive seen in these comments, despite my lack of credentials (though not a lack of observation). Ron Pauls campaign money goes into advertising blitzes and travel and fees for caucuses and straw polls. Thats why hes been winning the CPAC straw polls.His supporters anger at the media dismissing his candidacy is an interesting phenomenon, through Ive seen it before. His supporters are more like a cult than a political movement, and they dont understand why everyone doesnt clearly see his genius. I wish the media would give Pauls policy proposals a thorough review. Then it would be clear to many more people how unworkable these policies would be in the modern world. This isnt the 1800s, folks.

Jonny V

The Ron Paul supporters were all sure he was going to win in 2008 too. And yes, everything is a conspiracy to them.

PaneFullyAware

There is an obvious attempt to CREATE a bandwagon for Rick Perry. He hasnt really said ANYTHING and polls are run twice a week announcing the new RNC candidate has a huge lead. People are talking about Ron Pauls positions, but that just means that he has spoken about HIS values. Not what he thinks most people want to hear. Its called genuine values.

ajtdonahue

Paul in it for the money? He could care less about the money. He is gold rich, first of all. Secondly, he doesnt even participate in the congressional pension plan...ignorance. I didnt think he would win in 2008, I hoped he would. As for his ideas not working in modern times...how do you know? The last time our currency had any type of significant value is before Nixon took us off the gold standard...which led to recession and high interest rates. We have had a declining dollar ever since. All these smart republicans commenting against Paul will expouse how Ronald Reagan was the greatest. Really? Read Reagans memoirs, he regretted not putting the country back on the gold standard. He was against interfering in the Middle East. Ronald Reagan campaigned for Ron Paul in the 1980s and said Ron Paul knows what it takes to protect this country, we need to keep Ron Paul fighting for us. I guess Ronald Reagan was a crazy isolationist as well.

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