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April 25, 2011


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kisekilela: Yeah, I doubt that...The Interesting Times: It is Mississippi residents who are making their state look dumb, not the polling companies.

Tom Jensen

We do not hate Mississippi. All we did was ask the question, if the answer makes the state look bad thats not really our fault.


Thats not crossing into the 21st century. Thats crossing into the 1970s. I live in Toronto and I would be surprised if more than 5% of the population here would support a ban on interracial marriage.


I do wonder what percentage of those not glad the North won believe slavery and/or segregation would nonetheless have ended by today if the the outcome of the war had been different. Especially in the South and among GOP voters, I could see this being true of a substantial group of those polled, although not most.

The Interesting Times

Enough already. We get it. PPP doesnt like Mississippi.Can we get back to real issues now?


I really have to wonder what they think would have happened if th South had won. Do they think they would still have slaves? That blacks would still not be able to vote? What would their economy look like?


I wonder how many people who wished the South had won would say, I wish the South had won, and then immediately banned slavery.


Thank you for doing these polls and shining a light on GOP buffoonery in the south


Very interesting. I think this certifies that Georgia and North Carolina have finally crossed over the 1950s and into the 21st century. Hopefully Mississippi is not far behind. I wonder when Oklahoma and Alabama will?


This poll is just messed up. 10-15% of African Americans wanted the South to win the Civil War? Did they misunderstand the question or what?


Guess those Republicans that wish the South had one forget to pay attention in history class. Nobody in the Confederacy voted for the Republican Lincoln! Thats why I am and always will be a DEMOCRAT.


Who pays for these stupid polls?PPP surveyed 790 Georgia voters from March 31st to April 3rd, for a +/-3.5% margin oferror; 817 Mississippi voters from March 24th to 27th, for a +/-3.4% margin of error; and507 North Carolina voters from April 14th to 17th, for a +/-4.4% margin of error. Thispoll was not paid for or authorized by any campaign or political organization. PPPsurveys are conducted through automated telephone interviews. PPP is a Democraticpolling company but polling expert Nate Silver of the New York Times found that itssurveys in 2010 actually exhibited a slight bias toward Republican candidates.The fact that so many people cant read makes these poll results no surprise.

The Interesting Times

Wolf of Aquarius, I think it is likely that a victorious Confederacy would have ended slavery eventually. I doubt the CSA would have done it on its own initiative, though. More likely it would have been forced by internal resistance and external trade embargoes, similar to what ended apartheid in South Africa in the 1990s.

The Interesting Times

I simply fail to see the point of asking questions that have little relevance to public policy, and seem to have no other goal than to make Southerners sound crazy.


Who pays for these stupid polls?


These southern state polls are excellent. They need to be read in light of the older work of John Shelton Reed, who asked very similar questions back in the 1970s. No doubt Tom Jensen is familiar with Reed, Kenan Professor of Sociology, emeritus.


@JugulumI think many Southern conservatives cling to the fantasy that the Confederacy would have banned slavery sooner or later. A quick reading of the CSAs founding documents or the speeches of its politicians will quickly disabuse one of this notion as slavery and white supremacy are very explicitly stated to be at the core of its national character. And there would have been little or no economic incentive to improve the lot of blacks as the history of sharecropping and Jim Crow goes to show.I think Harry Turtledove is correct in his alternate history vision of a very bloody end to a victorious CSA.Ultimately, I think the conservative pro-South sentiment is due to resentment that many people think it was necessary for the North to tell the South how to run their states. But in the case of slavery, I see no other way for it to have ended other than by force of Federal arms.


Im not sure how to interpret these results. Im a liberal and I certainly wish the south had won their right to secede. Imagine how prosperous the United States would now be ... unencumbered by the low-productivity and uneducated southern states. Let em rise again and fer gawds sake LET EM GO THIS TIME!!!!


It puts into context exactly who makes up the core of the Republican Party and suggests what themes the Republican candidates are going to pander to their base on for the next year or so, regardless of how batshit insane it sounds to the rest of the country, then try to pretend in the general that they never said any of it.


I should point out that a lot of Northern and Western Republicans also would have liked to see the South win. The idea that it comes down to provincialism or racism is something they throw out there and hope it sticks.

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